But on last night's Red Eye programme, conveniently scheduled at 3am, the network sunk even lower.
Appearing on the discussion show was Matt Welch, editor of the incongruously named Reason magazine. His main complaint was the pressure he felt at having to accept people for who they are.
Bruce becomes Caitlyn Jenner, then there's a thousand people saying whatever the mores are right now, which will be totally different a month from now, everyone has to follow it right now or else they're all human monsters.
Fellow guest Tom Shillue, a 'comedian', said he couldn't remember Caitlyn Jenner's name and was perhaps the real victim in all of this.
I keep calling him Bruce and people act like I’m trying to be politically incorrect.
Things somehow got worse , with the discussion moving on to whether children would be safe in public toilets used by transgender people.
Would you want a freshly transgendered man, you know, in the ladies room?
To her credit, Jedediah Bila, the only woman on the panel, said she would have no problem with that.
Guest Mark Normand also, we think, tried to raise an important point about the gender pay gap, but it got obfuscated in his conservative bluster.
Bruce Jenner, look! He looks great now. You got to admit he looks good. She looks great, but is it worth the paycut?
Commentator Andy Levy, who looked quite exasperated throughout the entire exchange, meanwhile pointed out that the way the conservative right in the US had embraced gay rights over 30 years, meant the same thing would probably happen with trans rights as well.
So perhaps there is hope.
Watch the segment below:
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