Hands responded by saying it is not a loan, but a “discount which is taken back in the form of a levy”.
“You are not being given it, you have to pay it back,” Bruce said.
Hands replied: “No, not necessarily… it is taken back at the point at which it is levied.”
The audience started grumbling at this point, prompting Bruce to ask: “Sorry, you are all shouting, what are you all shouting?”
“It’s a loan,” the audience yelled back.
\u201cIt\u2019s not a loan, it is a discount\u201d\n\n\u201cWhat are you all shouting? They\u2019re saying it\u2019s a loan\u201d\n\n@Greghands tries to explain to the #bbcqt audience why the government\u2019s \u00a3200 energy discount is not a loan.pic.twitter.com/jstBCNxD9H
— BBC Question Time (@BBC Question Time)
The audience chuckled as Hands continued tying himself in knots by insisting it’s not a loan, rather it’s “a levy on the price point” and “it doesn’t create an obligation on the individual to repay”.
Bruce asked: “Oh so we can say we don’t want to pay it back, we don’t have to?”
Hands responded: “No I’m not saying that”.
A mixture of laughter and groaning could then be heard from the audience, before he again tried to explain it in his own roundabout way.
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